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Please forgive any mistakes or mix up's in this video, it was a raw unscripted opinion video, but I know you guys like it when I go raw ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Which one is best for gaming
It all depends on the kind of workload you're running. For real-time audio, a 7960x will net you twice the performance of a 1950x at low latencies: http://www.scanproaudio.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/7960X-DB6.jpg
You also get Thunderbolt support, which is generally a better interface than USB3 in terms of CPU overhead.
For me, these things made the $700 premium worth it. For people running different workloads, it probably won't be. If you're a gamer, you should stick to Coffee Lake (which offers superior single-core performance). If you're a video producer, Threadripper will offer great bang for the buck. But if you work in pro audio, particularly with VSTs at low latencies, stick to an Intel platform for now.
Just gonna tell you my 1cent i9 7940x just arrived, lucky ebay find.
I actually read all 243 comments. What is messed up thread. Bye. I will not even come back to see the replies on my comments. Bunch of children puking out last night toilet water.
Sorry Tech Showdown, this review of your just pulled in a weird crowd.
Why are all the AMD groupies so angry in the comments below. If its review played in your favor, why all the Intel flaming.
If the Intel was cheaper, would you still be angry, or it used 50W less?
I'm buying both AMD and Intel for years, and in some point in my life the money I could have spend on a CPU did have a serious influence.
My first AMD was a Athlon (K7).
I also followed the court cases how AMD cried "unfair", and actually won, and Intel had to license some of their protected patents, and pay heavy fines.
Back to 2018, and my current build is an Intel 7960, not because I do not understand the AMD offering, but because (a) Budget is not that important anymore, (b) I'm not a gamer, (c) and over the years Intel has served me well.
It may well be that the AMD is a better choice right now for a super gaming rig, but the the way the "fan-club" is going on below, is why I do not have an threadripper, and also why I do not have 2000 RGB LEDs under my desk or my car. The comment made by a groupie below about Intel being like a child, I wrong, I think its the other way round. (Do you know what is involved in setting up a CPU die plant?).
Anyhow, its months later now, and at the time f this video, there was not much real life tests. They all out there now, and both the Intel and AMD has scenarios where they perform better. Your needs and budget will decide which is better. (Ferrari or Lamborghini, no need to insult the other one because of your preference).
Steaming while playing a game while rendering. I'm sure the just picked 3 things for a use case. If they said video rendering, while working in Solidworks, and having a Skype call showing your buddy your 3d model, is another use case…
Otherwise, tx 🙂
Hello
What do you think about this processor?
i9 7920X
i buy an 1700 ryzen,,, if i could afford a 1000 cpu,, i will buy a 1950x for sure
can you inmagen all the intel people sitting their laughing at amd. while amd just worked on the best product they could make. then they bring out these cpu and intel pisses their pants. like wtf is the reasoning for asking 2FUCKINGk for a cpu with 2 more corse at double the price of amd?! if anything it shows it can be prob done much cheaper…not to mention the horrible thermal solution they are using…tragic really.
my opinion? i think it's time to invest in amd stock.
Hence return stick period discussion involved presidential.
Core i9-7980XE with vega 64 burn your house down hot
x299 is absolute trash.. that is the final verdict from most Youtubers including AdoredTV, Linus and HardwareUnboxing.
Threadripper is king..
Ryzen is boss.
Intel are now paying the price for ripping off customers for years and stifling innovation.
Just one more reason I subscribed to this channel. No BS, just straight talk about what the reviewer really thinks about a particular product. Benchmarks are still forthcoming, but with the information we already have from both teams it really looks like Intel is at quite a disadvantage. Who would have thought we'd be at this point 6 months ago?
Teddy to Kevin.. Just got on with it mortal I think Intel's marketing needs to get their shit right cause.. twice the cost? And TIM.. Not Soldered.. I love my 7700k.. But I can't see these selling to the normal folk these are rendering machine cpu's and that sort of uses.. But really..
AMD: We have a 16 core desktop CPU
Intel: So what? We can make a 18 core one.
AMD: Hold my beer /*shows pricing table*/
I've had an i7 980X since 2010, just replaced it with a 6850K so I'm good for the next 7 years unless something unfortunate happens. All this stuff is interesting to watch though.
Using nvidia teslas or AMD equivalent, the cards can communicate with each other or other PCIe devices without going through the CPU. This means 24 lanes only for all these cards you put in seperate from the cards connected to the CPU. So you could comfortably fit 2 of these cards only on the chipset seperate to 2-3 cards placed on the CPU.
On the threadripper you could have 4 of these cards connected to CPU and enjoy full 16 lanes each or 8 cards at 8 lanes each.
The other thing to note is the threadripper's better overclocking potential/power use because of the different ways that the CPUs are manufactured. Threadripper has 32MB of cache compared to intel's 18 core 24MB cache and that improves performance on localised looped code like simulations.
raw performance wise even intel loses out. Those slightly higher IPCs dont apply to every workload, only if you need to larger datasets (like handling 256/512bit data type processing). This is why ryzen beat skylake in IPCs in rendering demos as the datasets were only 32 bit or 64 bit long.
intel waited too long , they had a chance to take away sales from threadripper .. why did they take this long to make this annoucement.. also if they try to go low on the price amd can always go lower.. how is intel going to top that..
The more info is coming in, the worse the i9 just looks, price heat, wattage, pci-e lanes, the mobo boards limitations… Overall the Threadrippers seem better in so many regards that maybe even in performance they'll be chipping hard at intels i9's whose more expensive than their counterparts.
Also the streaming thing, I wonder how the quality difference still is, if it's the same than with the i7 vs ryzen, Intel is pretty fugged.
Its funny how intel plays with clockspeeds, just so they can squeeze it into the 165W TDP limit.
You said that intel will have advantage in clockspeeds, but i disagree. Clearly if you want to push the clockspeeds above threadrippers' base (3.4-3.5) you can prepare your wallet for a custom loop liquid cooling, cuz it will generate a lot more than 165W of heat.
Exactly as with the 7900X; on default clockspeeds, it can maintain admissable thermals, but once you set the clockspeeds above the standard all core turbo speeds, the chip becomes a living volcano.
threadripper all the way. better multithreaded performance per watt by far … and an infinitely more likeable company that actually does innovate and has forced stagnant intel to rush out the obviously unplanned i9 series after years of doing nothing but ripping us all off.
no way i am going to buy an intel processor in the next few years, i want amd to gain market share so they can dish out the whipping intel so thoroughly deserves.
i think the general consensus now is:
intel: stupid and boring.
amd: HEULL YEUH
At this level of performance anyone who tries to ask about value isn't shopping in the right market. You are buying raw performance here and you will pay a absurd premium regardless of company tg at is simple fact.
Trying to apply normal price to performance ratios to these kinds of chips to justify AMD's chips is simply using it as a crutch in the face of lacking the raw compute performance.
We know the difference in base price is 400$ for each 12 core CPU. Being 800$ the AMD model and 1200 the Intel model. But when you add taxes for each the difference is bigger than 400$. So for instance here in Europe we will have to pay about 25% in some countries, others pay 19, 21 or 23%. If you add 25% to the 1200$ part you will be paying 1500$ and adding 25% to 800$ stays at 1000$.
So the real difference you end up paying is 500$ not 400$. And the same happens on each component that is listed with no taxes included in the price.
I have been an Intel guy for a long time. I just switched to ryzen. Intel looks like the jealous kid trying to one up everyone. As soon as AMD reLeases something new intel is waiting to show off something better…EVERY FUCKING TIME. Sad part is, nobody cares. Very few people that are technologically inclined will ever buy such an outrageous processor for a rediculous price. No consumer will find a use for all those cores simultaneously… Even 16 cores is more than enough. INTEL JUST RELEASED THE I9 10 CORE WTF! and now they have a whole new lineup within the same 14nm process… Fuck off Intel.
So when is AMD going to build an actual 16 core CPU and what is it going to cost.
i totaly agree with you,unlike others you're so unbiased,like all the other youtubers seem kinda biased on amd,and the consumers are soo salty…so i appriciate your work and research…keep up!
PCI lanes are Extreme Mega-Bottlenecking
How AMD Turbo core works comparing to intel turbo boost?
I currently own an i7 4790k and I'll keep using it until it goes out or can't handle my apps. Which ever one comes first. I do know for a fact in the future my next system will be an amd 1700 or 1700x. It's great to be a part of the PC Master race………….:)
Don't intel high end parts always last longer (MTBF) than AMD's?
Looks like Intel isn't lowering their prices, haven't they heard about Ryzen?
The only people I see getting the 7960X are people who want performance over everything else, including price. There are people out there who think paying $700+ for that little extra oomph is justified. And I think they are fucking retarded but it is their money to do what they want with it. The fact that it basically takes Intel charging $700 just to beat the competition, and very likely by a very small margin, really shows just how in the hole Intel currently is.
I think Intel would just do better to chock the i9's as an Extreme (pun intended) loss and focus on Coffee Lake. It's about damn time Intel started pushing forward with innovation~.
Its also more than $150 more for a motherboard that you should put the 18 core skylake cpu in. so its almost $1000 more if you calculate motherboard cost. if you plan on overclocking the 18 core skylake thats nothing less than the best motherboard you can find adding another $150 then a 480mm custom loop or phase change cooling solution. so for overclocking you will spend more than dubble the cost of amd 16 core threadripper to have it work.
What are motherboards pricing differences 299 vs 399?
FUCK… MY WALLET HURTS FROM LOOKING AT THESE PRICES!!
I think a 6 core Coffee Lake will be more for me. Threadripper or Ryzen (even OC'd) are barely any better at single core performance than my old OC'd 2700K from back before Intel started nerfing their chips with TIM. If they solder Coffee Lake, then they will probably have a winner. If they don't I might pay a bit extra to get a delidded one.
Skylake-X is just a mess and shows a desperate panic from Intel that is just sad, as is nerfing/coasting that they have been doing for the last 4-5 generations… I truly hate to support Intel…. but I gotta do what works for me.
I don't think, that the 7980XE will have higher clockspeeds, than the 1950X. But we will see. The main reason is, that the infinity fabric is outside of the die and it doesn't heat the CPU, while intel uses an internal interconnect, which uses more power and heats the CPU a lot more. But we will see it in September as you mentioned. And again, it will use much more power.
And yes, the Threadripper can go on all of it's cores at 4.0. Just check the Cinebench R15 test. The Dell Alianware had 2866-29xx points, while at AMD the test gave 3062 points, if I remember correct.
I think, OCing such a big chips doesn't play here.
get ready for intels toothpaste..
For the price alone i can see many many intel fans sticking to what they have got or trying AMD if there looking at upgrading in the future.
so what about the i5 and i7 once the i9 hits the market do you think the i7 price will drop now that its no longer the flagship etc?.